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The quality is a bit rough at the start, I didn't anticipate my upload speed to be much of an issue.

It will be kept in mind for future attempts!

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It was such a great and relevant conversation.

Art is about sharing ourselves with each other, heart to heart, mind to mind. Art is about truth; art is about beauty, passion, creativity, vision, spirit.

It is not something to be intermediated by tech or politics or censors. Art is about keeping things real and not about how utilitarian something or someone is, as in the body scans, or unjustly not compensating individuals their proper just due for their work.

I wonder as I dabble as a painter how much benefit or disadvantage will I have for going along or not playing the part the system is demanding.

This conversation should an ongoing one, to be continued.

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Thanks again, Gabe and Liam. I really love talking to you guys.

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Sep 5Liked by Liam Sturgess, Visceral Adventure, Gabriel

Yay, I was waiting for somewhere I could communicate with three of my favorite people, all together in one presentation. This was a fantastic conversation! Halfway through I was kicking myself for not taking notes on the many things I wanted to respond to. But by then I was deep-cleaning parts of my kitchen thanks to all of you, although I won't be filming in there anytime soon (re: feng shui w/ Tonika).

In no particular order: Roald Dahl is a cantankerous curmudgeon who never would have let his work be made into milquetoast in his lifetime. He's politically incorrect as hell. In Willy Wonka the endomorphically challenged boy who cheats to gobble up the sweets turns into a plump blueberry and bounces away. That's no longer allowed. So it's not updating them, it's wokifying them.

And the issues with AI. Just today I saw a local editorial on how AI will help provide county services. Because the website is so complicated and frustrating, but AI will help you navigate it! Now, it seems like there's another way to solve it. So the ability to talk to a real person is being taken away. Good luck! Hello, interminable loops.

It was so fun to hear Liam and Tonika trade theater stories. Such an animated and nuanced discussion! I loved Tonika's closing remarks about the connections and community being larger than our self. And Gabe, every time I hear you, I'm so impressed. You have such a knowledgable and thoughtful approach to things.

Tonika, it made me want to hasten my article on Balkanization because I think what we need is a Balkanization of the net. Here's what I think the basic issue comes down to: it's not the technology but the intent. As long as people with power over us have malicious intent, there are no rules that can be written to oppose them because they write the rules. If we wrote the rules and even one community did things differently, they could never get away with what they do.

Thank you for a great listen and a clean kitchen!

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Sep 5Liked by Liam Sturgess, Visceral Adventure, Gabriel

Fantastic chat and nice change to be more emotionally connected to the discussion than trying to keep my head confined to processing facts & flow with ideas & feelings organically entwined. <3

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2-edged sword. Certainly the digital world has allowed me to reach ever so many more people - poetry getting 60,000 views a month for years. Fabulous. But earnings? Close to zero.

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Sep 6Liked by Visceral Adventure, Gabriel

Honoured to have the video collaboration with Tonika as the opener, and thrilled to be subject of discussion at the start! Tonika's work is a exemplar of great Digital Art! What a wonderful, engaging discussion. Really enjoyed it.

Will crosspost to my subscribers in a couple of days.

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