Art is about sharing ourselves with each other, heart to heart, mind to mind. Art is about truth; art is about beauty, passion, creativity, vision, spirit.
It is not something to be intermediated by tech or politics or censors. Art is about keeping things real and not about how utilitarian something or someone is, as in the body scans, or unjustly not compensating individuals their proper just due for their work.
I wonder as I dabble as a painter how much benefit or disadvantage will I have for going along or not playing the part the system is demanding.
This conversation should an ongoing one, to be continued.
Sep 5, 2023Liked by Liam Sturgess, Visceral Adventure, Gabriel
Yay, I was waiting for somewhere I could communicate with three of my favorite people, all together in one presentation. This was a fantastic conversation! Halfway through I was kicking myself for not taking notes on the many things I wanted to respond to. But by then I was deep-cleaning parts of my kitchen thanks to all of you, although I won't be filming in there anytime soon (re: feng shui w/ Tonika).
In no particular order: Roald Dahl is a cantankerous curmudgeon who never would have let his work be made into milquetoast in his lifetime. He's politically incorrect as hell. In Willy Wonka the endomorphically challenged boy who cheats to gobble up the sweets turns into a plump blueberry and bounces away. That's no longer allowed. So it's not updating them, it's wokifying them.
And the issues with AI. Just today I saw a local editorial on how AI will help provide county services. Because the website is so complicated and frustrating, but AI will help you navigate it! Now, it seems like there's another way to solve it. So the ability to talk to a real person is being taken away. Good luck! Hello, interminable loops.
It was so fun to hear Liam and Tonika trade theater stories. Such an animated and nuanced discussion! I loved Tonika's closing remarks about the connections and community being larger than our self. And Gabe, every time I hear you, I'm so impressed. You have such a knowledgable and thoughtful approach to things.
Tonika, it made me want to hasten my article on Balkanization because I think what we need is a Balkanization of the net. Here's what I think the basic issue comes down to: it's not the technology but the intent. As long as people with power over us have malicious intent, there are no rules that can be written to oppose them because they write the rules. If we wrote the rules and even one community did things differently, they could never get away with what they do.
I greatly appreciate the thoughtful feedback and glad to have put this together!
"There are no rules that can be written to oppose them because they write the rules"
That's a very important point, it really explains why so many people get stuck grinding their wheels on reforming systems "from the inside" that can't be reformed.
What delicious feedback, thanks Tereza! And agreed, if we had people exiting the system and creating their own paradigm, eventually others will adapt the better, more efficient and more humane ways to live. Deeply grateful that on Third Paradigm you offer outside-the-box solutions to realities, so damaging, yet so ingrained in us, that we don’t even know changing them is possible.
'if we wrote the rules and even one community did things differently, they could never get away with what they do...' - unfortunately the past 3 years have proven otherwise, but even the, the assaults on the Constitution have been relentless (lawfare's lawlessness) and the corruption runs deep. we need to keep up our demands for transparency, since critters and roaches can't stand the light.
Sep 5, 2023Liked by Liam Sturgess, Visceral Adventure, Gabriel
Fantastic chat and nice change to be more emotionally connected to the discussion than trying to keep my head confined to processing facts & flow with ideas & feelings organically entwined. <3
2-edged sword. Certainly the digital world has allowed me to reach ever so many more people - poetry getting 60,000 views a month for years. Fabulous. But earnings? Close to zero.
I have loved - and continue to love - the appreciation. Luckily for me, I have also loved being a college prof. Creativity - it needs greater valuing, in many ways, is my sense. Some of us do deeply value it - and also friendship, relationships, pets, etc
Honoured to have the video collaboration with Tonika as the opener, and thrilled to be subject of discussion at the start! Tonika's work is a exemplar of great Digital Art! What a wonderful, engaging discussion. Really enjoyed it.
Will crosspost to my subscribers in a couple of days.
Thank you for taking the time, Gary, so glad you tuned in! I’m sorry the loading experience wasn’t too smooth. Sometimes tech really puts out the banana peel dead square.
The quality is a bit rough at the start, I didn't anticipate my upload speed to be much of an issue.
It will be kept in mind for future attempts!
Live it seemed fine just a pinch of panic when Liam dropped but that was quick, whew!! :~)
I’m being scammed, I tell you! High speed internet, 5G cell plan, my rear end!
It was such a great and relevant conversation.
Art is about sharing ourselves with each other, heart to heart, mind to mind. Art is about truth; art is about beauty, passion, creativity, vision, spirit.
It is not something to be intermediated by tech or politics or censors. Art is about keeping things real and not about how utilitarian something or someone is, as in the body scans, or unjustly not compensating individuals their proper just due for their work.
I wonder as I dabble as a painter how much benefit or disadvantage will I have for going along or not playing the part the system is demanding.
This conversation should an ongoing one, to be continued.
Thank you! More are planned!
I have someone in mind who is much harsher on the topic of AI tools coming up!
Oh my goodness, so well said. Thank you.
Thanks again, Gabe and Liam. I really love talking to you guys.
You too!
Yay, I was waiting for somewhere I could communicate with three of my favorite people, all together in one presentation. This was a fantastic conversation! Halfway through I was kicking myself for not taking notes on the many things I wanted to respond to. But by then I was deep-cleaning parts of my kitchen thanks to all of you, although I won't be filming in there anytime soon (re: feng shui w/ Tonika).
In no particular order: Roald Dahl is a cantankerous curmudgeon who never would have let his work be made into milquetoast in his lifetime. He's politically incorrect as hell. In Willy Wonka the endomorphically challenged boy who cheats to gobble up the sweets turns into a plump blueberry and bounces away. That's no longer allowed. So it's not updating them, it's wokifying them.
And the issues with AI. Just today I saw a local editorial on how AI will help provide county services. Because the website is so complicated and frustrating, but AI will help you navigate it! Now, it seems like there's another way to solve it. So the ability to talk to a real person is being taken away. Good luck! Hello, interminable loops.
It was so fun to hear Liam and Tonika trade theater stories. Such an animated and nuanced discussion! I loved Tonika's closing remarks about the connections and community being larger than our self. And Gabe, every time I hear you, I'm so impressed. You have such a knowledgable and thoughtful approach to things.
Tonika, it made me want to hasten my article on Balkanization because I think what we need is a Balkanization of the net. Here's what I think the basic issue comes down to: it's not the technology but the intent. As long as people with power over us have malicious intent, there are no rules that can be written to oppose them because they write the rules. If we wrote the rules and even one community did things differently, they could never get away with what they do.
Thank you for a great listen and a clean kitchen!
Thank you so much! It really means a lot!
I greatly appreciate the thoughtful feedback and glad to have put this together!
"There are no rules that can be written to oppose them because they write the rules"
That's a very important point, it really explains why so many people get stuck grinding their wheels on reforming systems "from the inside" that can't be reformed.
What delicious feedback, thanks Tereza! And agreed, if we had people exiting the system and creating their own paradigm, eventually others will adapt the better, more efficient and more humane ways to live. Deeply grateful that on Third Paradigm you offer outside-the-box solutions to realities, so damaging, yet so ingrained in us, that we don’t even know changing them is possible.
'if we wrote the rules and even one community did things differently, they could never get away with what they do...' - unfortunately the past 3 years have proven otherwise, but even the, the assaults on the Constitution have been relentless (lawfare's lawlessness) and the corruption runs deep. we need to keep up our demands for transparency, since critters and roaches can't stand the light.
Fantastic chat and nice change to be more emotionally connected to the discussion than trying to keep my head confined to processing facts & flow with ideas & feelings organically entwined. <3
❤️ and here I was fretting that there might be little appreciation for artsy-fartsy convos that dance with the incorporeal.
no worries :-))
2-edged sword. Certainly the digital world has allowed me to reach ever so many more people - poetry getting 60,000 views a month for years. Fabulous. But earnings? Close to zero.
in a philosophical sort of way real appreciation comes from the heart and is priceless, like love and friendships.... ;-))
I have loved - and continue to love - the appreciation. Luckily for me, I have also loved being a college prof. Creativity - it needs greater valuing, in many ways, is my sense. Some of us do deeply value it - and also friendship, relationships, pets, etc
creativity, or divine inspiration... truly mysterious.
Honoured to have the video collaboration with Tonika as the opener, and thrilled to be subject of discussion at the start! Tonika's work is a exemplar of great Digital Art! What a wonderful, engaging discussion. Really enjoyed it.
Will crosspost to my subscribers in a couple of days.
Thank you for taking the time, Gary, so glad you tuned in! I’m sorry the loading experience wasn’t too smooth. Sometimes tech really puts out the banana peel dead square.
ps Gabe, the Peertube experience was not too smooth. Kept "failing to load", and the loading circle was permentantly at the center of the screen.
That's a shame, unfortunately I am limited by the bandwidth available to me.
I'm always keeping an eye on ways to improve, and there is much I would like to.